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good afternoon

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everyone we're going to start with the

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US press we're going to take two from

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the US we'll take two from International

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and then we'll go from there depending

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on the depending on the secretary so let

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us start with now hold on John sir I'm

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gonna talk first

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that uh it is great to be here at NATO

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with 31 allies also uh with my wife

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Jenny who's been meeting with families

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of US troops both here in Germany and

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we're heading to Poland right after this

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as well that's what this is all about

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for me for president Trump

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uh and the defense department I also

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want to express a special thanks uh to

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the Secretary General Secretary General

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Ruta uh for your boldness for your

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friendship for your leadership and most

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especially for your urgency your urgency

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of the matter at hand which is great to

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see uh from the leader of NATO look uh

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forward to working very closely with him

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and his

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team and before we're talking about what

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we've done at the ministerial I want to

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reaffirm a few things from this podium

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first as we see it NATO's strategic

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objectives are to prevent great power

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conflict in Europe deter nuclear and

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non-nuclear

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aggression and defeat threats to treat

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allies should deterrence

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fail second the US is committed to

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building a stronger more lethal

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NATO however we must ensure that

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European and Canadian commitment to to

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article three of this treaty is just as

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strong article three says that allies

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and I quote by means of continuous and

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effective self-help and mutual Aid will

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maintain and develop their individual

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and Collective

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capacity to resist armed

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attack leaders of our European allies

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should take primary responsibility for

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defense of the continent which means

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security ownership by all allies Guided

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by a clear understanding of strategic

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realities and it's an imperative given

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the Strategic realities that we

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face and that begins with increasing

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defense

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spending 2% is a start as president

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Trump has said but it's not enough nor

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is 3% nor is 4% more like 5% real

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investment real real urgency we can talk

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all we want about values values are

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important but you can't shoot

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values you can't shoot

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flags and you can't shoot strong

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speeches there is no replacement for

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hard

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power as much as we may not want to like

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the world we live in in some cases

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there's nothing like hard

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power it should be obvious that

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increases Allied European defense

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spending is critical as the President of

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the United States has said also critical

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is expanding our defense industrial

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based capacity on both sides of the

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Atlantic our dollars our Euros our

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pounds must become real

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capabilities the US is fully committed

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under President Trump's leadership to

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pursue these objectives in face in the

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face of today's threats

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yesterday I had a chance to attend the

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Ukraine defense contact group today

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participated in both the NATO

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ministerial and the Ukraine Council in

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both we discussed Russia's war of

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aggression against

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Ukraine I had the chance to brief allies

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on President Trump's top priority a

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diplomatic peaceful end to this war as

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quickly as possible in a manner that

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creates endurance and durable

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peace the American defense department

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fully supports the efforts of the Trump

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Administration and we look to allies to

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support this important

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work with leading on Ukraine security

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assistance now through Inc increased

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contributions and greater ownership of

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future security assistance to

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Ukraine to that end I want to thank uh

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my UK counterpart defense secretary John

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Healey for hosting this Ukraine defense

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contact group and for his leadership on

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support of

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Ukraine president Trump gave me a clear

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Mission achieve peace through

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strength as well as put America First

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our people our taxpayers our borders and

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our

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security we are doing this by Reviving

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The Warrior ethos rebuilding our

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military and reestablishing

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deterrence NATO should pursue these

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goals as

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well NATO is a great

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Alliance the most successful defense

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Alliance in

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history but to endure for the future our

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partners must do far more for Europe's

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defense we must make NATO great again

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it begins with defense

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spending but must also include Reviving

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the transatlantic defense industrial

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base rapidly Fielding emerging

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Technologies prioritizing Readiness and

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lethality and establishing real

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deterrence finally I want to close with

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this after World War

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II first general and then President

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Eisenhower was one of NATO's strongest

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supporters he believed in a strong

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relationship with

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Europe however by the end of

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Eisenhower's presidency even he was

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concerned that Europe was not

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shouldering enough of its own

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defense nearly making in Eisenhower's

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words quote a sucker out of Uncle

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Sam well like President Eisenhower this

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Administration believes in alliances

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deeply believes in alliances

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but make no mistake president Trump will

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not allow anyone to turn Uncle Sam into

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Uncle

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sucker thank you and we're glad to take

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some questions thanks very much let's

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start with the US traveling TV pool with

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Liz for

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them thank you secretary hegf uh you

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have focused on what Ukraine is giving

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up what can sessions will Putin be asked

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to

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make um well that's I would start by

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saying the the arguments that have been

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made that somehow um coming to the table

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right now is making concessions uh to

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Vladimir Putin outright that we

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otherwise or that the president of the

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United States shouldn't otherwise make I

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just reject that at its face there's a

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reason why negotiations are happening

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right now just a few weeks after

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president Trump was swor and his

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president of the United States Vladimir

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Putin responds to

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strength in 2014 he invaded Crimea not

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during the presidency of Donald Trump

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over four years there was no Russian

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aggression from 2016 to 2020 in

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2022 Vladimir Putin took aggression on

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Ukraine once again not while President

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Trump was President of the United States

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so any suggestion that President Trump

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is is doing anything other than

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negotiating from a position of strength

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is on its face ahistorical and false uh

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so when you look at what he may have to

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give or take what's in or what's out in

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those negotiations we have the perfect

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dealmaker at the table from a position

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of strength to deal with both Vladimir

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Putin and zalinski no one's going to get

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everything that they want uh

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understanding who committed the

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aggression in the first place but I

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challenge anyone else to think of a

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world leader at this moment who with

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credibility and strength could bring

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those two leaders to the table and Forge

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a durable piece that ultimately serves

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the interests of Ukraine stops The

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Killing and the death which President

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has been Trump has been clear he wants

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to do and hopefully ultimately is

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guarant or guaranteed by strength of

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Europeans where they're prepared to back

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it up

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why not invoke Article 5 then for the

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NATO peacekeeping forces that could

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potentially be deployed um like how does

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that deter President Putin well I would

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say I want to be clear about something

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as it pertains to uh NATO membership not

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being realistic outcome for negotiations

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that's something that was stated as part

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of my remarks here as part of a

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coordination with how we're executing

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these ongoing negotiations which are led

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by President Trump all of that said

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these negotiations are led by President

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Trump everything is on the table in his

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conversations with Vladimir Putin and

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zinsky uh what he decides to allow or

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not allow is at the purview of the

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leader of the Free World of President

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Trump so I'm not going to stand at this

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Podium and declare what president Trump

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will do or won't do what will be in or

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what will be out what concessions will

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be made or what concessions are not made

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I I can look as our team has a what's

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realistic likely on an outcome I think

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realism is an important part of the

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conversation that hasn't existed enough

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inside conver conversations amongst

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friends but simply pointing out realism

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like the borders won't be rolled back to

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what everybody would like them to be in

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2014 is not a concession to Vladimir

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Putin it's a recognition of hard power

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realities on the ground after a lot of

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investment and sacrifice first by the

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ukrainians and then by allies and then a

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realization that a negotiated piece is

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going to going to be some sort of

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demarcation that neither neither side

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wants but it's not my job as a secretary

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of defense to define the parameters of

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the president of the United States as he

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leads some of the most complex and

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consequential negotiations in the world

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sticking with the US press let us go

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with axios Zach B right in in the

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far thank you Mr secretary given the

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position you've now Stak out what

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leverage exactly is Ukraine being left

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with especially if the US also plans to

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wind down its military aid and then

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quickly if a NATO alies is attacked by

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Russia or any country will the US

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unequivocally uphold his obligations

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under Article 5 regardless of that

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country's we' said we're committed to

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the alliance and that's part of the

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alliance right you point out Article

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Five you point out article three it's

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just a cheap I'm not saying it's a cheap

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coming from you but it's just a cheap

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political point to say oh we've left all

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the negotiating cards off the table uh

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in by recognizing some realities that

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exist on the

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ground president zalinsky understands

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the realities on the ground President

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Putin understands the realities on the

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ground and president Trump as a

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dealmaker as a negotiator understands

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those Dynamics as well by no means is

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anything that I State here even though

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we we lead the most powerful military in

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the world hemming in the

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commander-in-chief in his negotiations

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to ultimately decide where it goes or

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does not go oh he's got all the cards he

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would like and the interesting part is

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often times while the

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conventional status quo mindset or the

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Legacy Media wants to play Checkers the

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same checkers game we've been playing

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for

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decades president Trump time and time

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again finds a way to play chess as a

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dealmaker as a businessman who

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understands how to create realities and

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opportunities where they otherwise may

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not exist take for example the

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conversations that our treasury

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secretary had in Kiev recently with

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President zolinski which will continue

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in Munich with our vice president and

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Secretary of State around Investments

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and resources inside Ukraine uh I I

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don't want to get ahead of any decision

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or announcement that could be made there

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it could be any number of parameters but

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president Trump as a dealmaker and a

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businessman recognizes that a investment

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relationship with Ukraine ultimately in

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the long term for the United States is a

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lot more tangible than any promises or

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shared values we might have even though

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we have them um there is something to

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relationships and deals in real ways

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whether militarily or economically or

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diplomatically that he sees that are

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possibilities that could Forge together

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uh a lot of opportunities to show that

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solidarity that Vladimir Putin will

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clearly recognize that's one of any

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number of other opportunities that this

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President will leverage in these high

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States negotiations so I just reject on

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its face the premise that somehow

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president Trump isn't dealing with a

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full set of cards uh when he's the one

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that can determine ultimately what cards

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he holds great now shifting to the

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international press we'll take the

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French wire service a FR press with Max

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Delan thank you very much uh Secretary

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of Defense um

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can you you've spoken about trying to

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force both Putin and zalinsky to the

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table can you give a guarantee that no

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deal will be forced on Ukraine that they

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do not want to accept and also that you

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will include Europe in the negotiations

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about their own about an issue that that

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that concerns European security and can

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you tell us whether the US will continue

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to supply arms to Ukraine during any

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negotiations well to the first part of

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your question that's not ultim Ely my

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decision uh president will lead these

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negotiations alongside our secretary of

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state our national security advisor um

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and numerous other officials that will

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be involved and ultimately we've played

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our role in in talking to our NATO

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allies about uh what that would look

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like President Trump I want to point out

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I've got the the truths right here that

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he posted called both in case we missed

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it Vladimir Putin and president zinski

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called them both any negotiation that's

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had will be had with both I also very

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encouraged by what the Secretary General

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has said here uh TR clearly attune to

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the realities of the moment uh the need

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for peace and that the NATO alliance and

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European members will play a role in

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that uh

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ultimately president Trump speaking to

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those two countries is Central to the

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deal being made but it affects a lot of

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people of course so I I'm not going to

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I'm not going to be involved in those

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intimate diplomatic negotiations that's

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for the the pros at top the Trump

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Administration who do diplomacy in

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negotiations ultimately is security

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assistance uh we have continued to

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provide what has been allocated uh I

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think it would be fair to say that

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things like future funding either less

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or more uh could be on the table in in

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negotiations as well whatever the

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president determines is the most robust

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carrot or stick on either side to induce

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a durble uh piece understanding

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obviously the motivations that Vladimir

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Putin has had on on Ukraine for quite

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some time thank you we'll have a second

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International press Outlet we'll go with

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the German paper

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f with Dr

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Thomas Thanks a

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lot good afternoon Mr secretary two

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questions please uh the first one

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regarding the new defense investment

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plan C when you and president Trump

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speak about raising it to 5% do you mean

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European allies only or do you mean the

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us as well which is currently at 3.4%

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according to Nato

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statistics and if the letter is true

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when do you think the us could possibly

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reach the goal of spending 5% on defense

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that's number one number two you've said

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yesterday that Europeans need to take

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ownership of their own conventional

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security so should Europeans expect that

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ultimately the US would withdraw the

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bike of their forces from Europe and

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just leave in in place what is necessary

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for nuclear DET turns I know there's a

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revision going on I don't expect you to

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name any numbers but maybe give us an

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Outlook of what we should expect thank

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you thank

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you I think nobody can or should test

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the extent of America's willingness to

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invest in National Security um our we

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have a budget of

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850 billion dollars spent on defense um

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I'm in the business of ensuring that

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every dollar of that is used wisely

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which is why

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we're pushing a pentagon audit and

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making sure that uh we're cutting fat so

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that we've got more at the T at the tip

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of the spear uh

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3.4% is a very robust investment uh

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larger than most of our allies within

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NATO any defense any defense minister or

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Secretary of Defense that tells you they

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wouldn't want more would be lying to you

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uh I understand that ultimately we have

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uh our own budgetary considerations to

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be had but I don't think an

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unwillingness of NATO allies to invest

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uh in their own defense spending can be

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dismissed Away by trying to point at the

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$900 billion that America has invested

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around the globe to include the NATO

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alliance and saying that's not enough uh

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so ultimately we are very much committed

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to the NATO alliance and to our allies

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but without burdens sharing without

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creating the right set of incentives for

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European countries to invest uh then we

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would be forced to attempt to be

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everywhere for everybody all the time

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which in a world of fiscal restraints is

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again to get back to that word reality

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just not reality so yes we we will

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continue to spend robustly our

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expectation of our friends and we say

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this in solidarity is you have to spend

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more on your defense for your country on

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that continent understanding that the

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American Military and the American

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people stand beside you as we have in

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NATO but can't have the expectation of

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being the permanent guarantor as I

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alluded to uh from what even Eisenhower

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observed post World War II that shift

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has to happen the peace dividend has to

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end there are autocrats with ambitions

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around the globe from Russia to the

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Communist Chinese either the West

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awakens to that reality and creates

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combat multipliers with their allies and

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partners to include NATO or we will

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abdicate that responsibility to somebody

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else with all the wrong values uh you

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mentioned Europe um we have not said in

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any way that we're abandoning our allies

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in Europe there have been no decisions

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based on troop levels again that's a

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discussion to be had by the

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commander-in-chief in in these uh high

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stakes negotiations and that would most

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likely come later on but there is a

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recognition that the ambitious of the

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com the

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Ambitions of the Communist Chinese are a

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threat to free people everywhere to

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include America's interests in the

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Pacific and it makes a lot of sense just

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just in a Common Sense

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way uh to use our comparative

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advantages European countries spending

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here in defense of this continent in

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defense of allies here against an

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aggressor on this continent with

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ambitions that strikes me as the right

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place to in and I don't say that in a

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condescending way I say that in a common

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sense practical way investing in defense

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on the continent makes sense we support

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that as well it also makes sense

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comparatively and geographically for the

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United States along with allies in the

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Pacific like Japan and South Korea and

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Phil the Philippines and Australia and

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others to also invest in allies and

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partners and capabilities in the Pacific

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to project power there in service of

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deterent that deterrent effect in the

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Pacific is one that really can only be

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led by the United States we wish we

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could lead everywhere at all times we

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will stand in solidarity with allies and

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partners and encourage everyone to

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invest in order to have forc

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multiplication of what we represent but

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it requires realistic

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conversations those with disingenuous

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motives in the media I don't mean to

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look at you just saying anyone that

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suggest its abandonment are trying to

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drive a wedge between allies that does

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not exist we are committed to that NATO

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alliance we understand the importance of

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that partnership but it can't endure on

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the status quo forever in light of the

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threats we face and fiscal realities

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Europe has to spend more NATO has to

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spend more has to invest more and we're

25:03 - 25:08

very encouraged by what the Secretary

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General has said and frankly by behind

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closed doors what a lot of our allies

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have said as well acknowledging that

25:11 - 25:16

reality and that's why when I say make

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NATO great again uh it's what president

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Trump set out to do in

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2017 the Press said president Trump is

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abandoning NATO he's turning his back on

25:25 - 25:29

our NATO allies that's what that's what

25:27 - 25:33

the headlines right

25:29 - 25:36

in 2017 and 2018 what actually happened

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that tough tough conversation created

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even more investment to the point where

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now almost every NATO country is meeting

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the 2% goal that was said to be

25:42 - 25:47

egregious when he first said it now

25:45 - 25:49

European countries are stepping up and

25:47 - 25:52

president Trump continues to Ring the

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Alarm Bell that even more investment is

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required considering where we are uh so

25:55 - 26:00

suggestions of Abandonment otherwise

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continue to be dis uous uh and we we are

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proud to be part of this Alliance and

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stand by I'll take a couple more sure

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why don't we take one from a US outlet

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and one from an international outlet

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with the US Outlet pardon me sir uh what

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we're going to take uh from the US is

26:15 - 26:18

Logan rattic from Newsmax

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please you talked about expanding the uh

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defense industrial base uh and also uh

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Expediting foreign military sales can

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you expand on that a little bit and how

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important that is to Nato well one of

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the

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self-evident

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um conclusions of the of the war in

26:39 - 26:43

Ukraine was the underinvestment that

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both the European continent and America

26:43 - 26:47

has had unfortunately in the defense

26:45 - 26:50

industrial base the ability to produce

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Munitions uh emerging Technologies

26:50 - 26:55

rapidly INF field them uh was a blind

26:53 - 26:58

spot exposed through the aggression

26:55 - 26:59

against Ukraine uh Ukraine has responded

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to to that as we've had a chance to

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listen to a great deal uh Europe is

27:01 - 27:05

responding to that and so is America we

27:03 - 27:07

have to do more to ensure whether you

27:05 - 27:09

call it the Arsenal for democracy or

27:07 - 27:13

defending the Free World if America

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can't build and Export and build and

27:13 - 27:16

provide rapid capabilities because we're

27:15 - 27:19

too stale or static or bureaucratic or

27:16 - 27:21

the Pentagon is bloated um then we're

27:19 - 27:23

not able to field the systems we need in

27:21 - 27:25

the future so deep and dramatic reforms

27:23 - 27:27

are coming at the defense department

27:25 - 27:29

with the leadership of President Trump

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to ensure that we're investing robustly

27:29 - 27:34

in our defense industrial base a great

27:31 - 27:36

example is ship building we need to

27:34 - 27:38

vastly increase our ability to build

27:36 - 27:40

ships and submarines not just for

27:38 - 27:42

ourselves but to honor obligations to

27:40 - 27:43

our allies as well and and we will do

27:42 - 27:45

that foreign military sales is another

27:43 - 27:48

thing I mentioned this morning with the

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Secretary General um we have for for a

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long time been the country by with and

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through that our allies are able to

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supply major platforms and Weapons

27:54 - 27:59

Systems like the F35 and the Patriots

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and others whatever the system is we

27:59 - 28:05

need to reform that process so it's

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quicker so a request today isn't

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delivered 7 years from now but three

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years from now with less red tape and

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with the most efficient and effective

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technology possible we hear that from

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our allies and that's part of being a

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good faith partner is we're going to

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invest in our defense industrial base

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we're going to make sure foreign

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military sales are as rapid as possible

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which again is a force multiplier for

28:25 - 28:29

American power uh which is something we

28:27 - 28:30

want to do in a contested world for our

28:29 - 28:32

final question we'll go to an

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international Outlet the Japanese

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service NHK with suio sug

28:38 - 28:43

please SAA from NHK the Japanese TV

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station thank you very much I'd like to

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ask about uh China as you mentioned that

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uh us will be prioritizing in deterring

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China what role will you be expecting uh

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with Japan and ip4 countries to play in

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this context sure I mean first of all I

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would point out that president president

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Trump has expressed a strong

28:59 - 29:04

relationship with shping uh we don't

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have an inevitable desire to clash with

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China there's a recognition that there

29:07 - 29:13

are uh Divergent interests which lead to

29:11 - 29:15

a need for strength on the American side

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to ensure our interests are Advanced and

29:15 - 29:19

that ultimately any aggression is

29:17 - 29:20

deterred uh that's a real thing but we

29:19 - 29:23

don't feel like conflict is inevitable

29:20 - 29:25

and certainly don't seek conflict with

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China and that's why president Trump has

29:25 - 29:29

uh that good relationship with shui but

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it was prudent for us to work with

29:29 - 29:34

allies and partners in the Pacific to

29:31 - 29:37

ensure that that deterrence hard power

29:34 - 29:39

deterrence uh not just reputational but

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reality exists and that's why a lot of

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my first phone calls as Secretary of

29:41 - 29:46

Defense were to Pacific allies to

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Australia uh to Japan to South Korea to

29:46 - 29:53

the Philippines and others and will

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continue um because that just as this

29:53 - 29:57

Alliance uh in Europe is critical

29:55 - 29:59

working by with and through allies and

29:57 - 30:00

partners in in that region who

29:59 - 30:03

understand the reality of the the

30:00 - 30:05

ascended Chinese threat will be critical

30:03 - 30:08

uh it can't be America alone it won't be

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America alone if we are to deter that um

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so it's it is a focus I've articulated

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that from day one uh America achieves

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strength whether it's in this in the in

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in peace through uh the Ukrainian

30:20 - 30:25

conflict or deterring it uh in the

30:22 - 30:27

Pacific through strength there's a

30:25 - 30:30

reason why Donald Trump emphasizes peace

30:27 - 30:33

through strength at every moment my job

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my job alone as the secretary of defense

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is to ensure he has the strongest most

30:36 - 30:42

capable most lethal military possible

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heaven forbid we have to use it it's

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meant and built for deterrence but if we

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have to we can close with and destroy

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our enemies and bring our men and women

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home uh with success as quickly as

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possible uh thank you very much for the

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thank you very

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after

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means

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Securing NATO: Prioritizing Defense Spending and Diplomatic Negotiations

In the interview, Secretary of Defense emphasized the critical importance of robust defense spending within NATO, urging European allies to increase their investments in defense. President Trump's administration is committed to strengthening NATO and enhancing its capabilities. The Secretary highlighted the need for real investments, not just in values and speeches, but in hard power. The focus is on preventing conflict, deterring aggression, and ensuring the capacity to resist armed attacks collectively.

Prioritizing Strategic Realities in Defense Spending

The Secretary stressed the significance of recognizing strategic realities in defense planning. NATO's effectiveness hinges on the commitment of all allies to Article 3 of the treaty, which emphasizes continuous self-help and mutual aid to maintain their defense capacity. While the US remains dedicated to a stronger NATO, the emphasis is on encouraging European and Canadian allies to shoulder a more significant responsibility for the continent's defense. The call for increasing defense spending to at least 2% of GDP is just a starting point, with the Secretary advocating for a more substantial investment, possibly up to 5%.

Diplomatic Endeavors for Peace

The discussion also touched upon diplomatic efforts, especially concerning Ukraine. President Trump's priority is to achieve a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine, emphasizing the importance of diplomacy backed by strength. The US Defense Department fully supports these diplomatic initiatives and looks to NATO allies for increased contributions to Ukraine's security assistance.

Strengthening NATO's Defense Industrial Base

The Secretary highlighted the need to revitalize the defense industrial base, ensuring rapid development and deployment of emerging technologies. This includes expediting foreign military sales and enhancing the efficiency of the process to equip allies with necessary defense systems promptly. The vision is to create a more agile and robust defense industrial base capable of meeting evolving security challenges effectively.

Future Perspectives: Towards a Stronger NATO

Looking ahead, the focus remains on revitalizing NATO by increasing defense spending, enhancing readiness and lethality, and establishing a credible deterrence. While underlining the importance of alliances, the Secretary, echoing President Eisenhower, emphasized the need for all NATO partners to contribute significantly to Europe's defense. The vision is clear – to make NATO great again by reinforcing its capabilities and ensuring it remains a formidable defense alliance for the future.

In conclusion, the Secretary's insights shed light on the pivotal role of defense spending, diplomatic negotiations, and industrial capacity in securing NATO's future. By emphasizing the need for tangible investments, strategic partnerships, and a proactive approach to security challenges, the path to a stronger and more resilient NATO unfolds. As the alliance navigates evolving threats and geopolitical dynamics, the collective efforts of all allies are crucial to upholding NATO's mission of safeguarding peace and security. The journey towards a more robust and effective NATO is ongoing, with shared commitment and concerted actions paving the way for a safer and more secure transatlantic community.