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viani knows that my wife is involved in
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infidelity he keeps quiet he doesn't
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me when I find out and I asked fan say
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he says no I knew but it was not my
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place to tell you that is a betrayal
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that's not
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loyalty it's like these people who are
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eff who say to us we knew s and so was
00:31 - 00:35
going to leave but did not tell the
00:33 - 00:38
leadership and they still want the
00:35 - 00:40
relationship to be the
00:38 - 00:43
same you cannot know such information
00:40 - 00:47
and not tell me and expect me to trust
00:43 - 00:48
you I do not trust them and I will never
00:48 - 00:56
them because trust is end when you show
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loyalty at a point when it is needed not
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loyalty of nice
00:58 - 01:04
time when is nice nice no we are loyal
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we loyer president president cic
01:04 - 01:08
cic when things are bad you can't show
01:08 - 01:15
loyalty you must show loyalty at the
01:15 - 01:21
moments you sit there you sit there
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comfortably with people who are telling
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you an issue that is going to bring the
01:24 - 01:31
organization into distribute an issue
01:27 - 01:36
that is going to negatively affect the
01:31 - 01:39
organization and say no h it was not my
01:36 - 01:43
place to tell you where is loyalty
01:39 - 01:46
there you're not loyal and people who
01:43 - 01:51
are not loyal must never be trusted by
01:46 - 01:54
anyone they will kill you you will
01:57 - 02:03
must hey hey hey hey you and so and so
02:00 - 02:03
must make and be
02:05 - 02:11
together we're
02:07 - 02:16
fine were colleagues were fine it ends
02:11 - 02:19
there so uh when when you have shown
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people when you have been
02:21 - 02:27
loyal and you don't have a sense of
02:24 - 02:31
betrayal wait for the day you get
02:27 - 02:35
betrayed you will understand how we feel
02:31 - 02:38
about betrayal we loyal
02:35 - 02:40
people we've never done anything to harm
02:40 - 02:44
people I always ask and I always say to
02:44 - 02:50
comrades for every moment there must be
02:47 - 02:53
a turning point you must say it was at
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this point when I knew that we're
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heading for divorce
02:55 - 03:01
now what was that point can they point
02:59 - 03:04
that point point where they say this was
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point this was a turning point no one
03:07 - 03:13
can point at that turning
03:09 - 03:17
point because a turning point helps
03:13 - 03:20
because even if you are in denial but
03:17 - 03:23
you'll know we fought on this
03:20 - 03:26
point you go and sit with people who are
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telling you they living the eff you say
03:26 - 03:31
have you prayed about it have your mom
03:29 - 03:34
prayed about it it and then you keep
03:31 - 03:36
quiet and then you you think we must all
03:34 - 03:39
survive through
03:36 - 03:41
prayer now we must be informed by Prayer
03:39 - 03:43
by holy spirit that people are going
03:41 - 03:46
when you've got
03:43 - 03:49
information that that is the highest
03:50 - 03:57
disloyalty and godri
03:52 - 03:58
says even if he had told me as a joke I
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would have brought it to the attention
03:58 - 04:04
of the leadership that this guy made a
04:00 - 04:06
silly joke this what he said that's what
04:06 - 04:13
about Loyalty means defend the
04:09 - 04:16
organization in private and in
04:13 - 04:17
public our organization went through a
04:17 - 04:23
period where all leaders had to come out
04:20 - 04:24
and defend it and you were not there why
04:23 - 04:27
must I be there for
04:24 - 04:29
you why should the organization be there
04:27 - 04:32
for you when you are not there when the
04:29 - 04:35
organization needed you the
04:32 - 04:37
most and people go around here raising
04:35 - 04:41
names of such people and they think we
04:37 - 04:43
must still trust them too having known
04:41 - 04:46
what these people have done to the
04:43 - 04:50
organization the organization get
04:46 - 04:51
insulted the leadership gets insulted in
04:51 - 04:59
name people even threaten to to disrupt
04:55 - 05:01
eff's conference in your name you keep
04:59 - 05:03
quiet and then you say we must say
05:03 - 05:09
loyal ah you'll rather be alone my
05:07 - 05:12
brother my sister you would rather be
05:09 - 05:14
alone than to force yourself in a
05:12 - 05:18
relationship that is not
05:14 - 05:20
working I'm using relationship to
05:18 - 05:23
simplify this
05:20 - 05:26
disloyalty that we have experienced
05:23 - 05:29
ourselves and how do I come to know that
05:26 - 05:32
this person has known that one has known
05:29 - 05:35
about B Floyd going they don't volunteer
05:32 - 05:39
even after he left they don't volunteer
05:35 - 05:43
to come and tell me they wait for me to
05:39 - 05:46
come and ask them did you know yes for
05:43 - 05:49
how long for over 2 weeks now why did
05:46 - 05:51
you keep quiet I didn't see a need for
05:51 - 05:59
you that was a turning point for me with
05:56 - 06:00
them they must tell you what was their
05:59 - 06:03
Turning Point
06:00 - 06:06
with me my Turning Point with them was
06:03 - 06:09
when they kept the information away from
06:06 - 06:12
me a an information that has got
06:09 - 06:14
potential to destroy the organization
06:12 - 06:17
damage its beautiful
06:14 - 06:18
reputation and bring it into distribute
06:18 - 06:24
quiet and then I must talk for them I
06:21 - 06:27
must defend them when they could not
06:24 - 06:30
defend the organization hell no they can
06:27 - 06:33
go to hell I'm not going to do
06:30 - 06:36
that even if that means we must lose
06:33 - 06:39
vote I'm not going to fight for votes by
06:36 - 06:43
sitting with people who are
06:39 - 06:43
disloyal because I want
06:43 - 06:48
votes I must spend
06:46 - 06:50
time with people who are disloyal you
06:48 - 06:53
know what it means to be an
06:50 - 06:58
official we have a meeting of the top
06:53 - 07:02
six and say the most highest form of
06:58 - 07:05
Secrets of the f f because we trust each
07:02 - 07:09
other that's what being an official
07:05 - 07:12
means it emanates from trusting each
07:09 - 07:15
other not as a friends
07:12 - 07:17
SG but as a person who can be trusted
07:15 - 07:20
that you will defend the organization
07:17 - 07:22
under the most difficult
07:20 - 07:24
position imagine if one of these
07:22 - 07:27
officials had
07:24 - 07:30
resigned and followed the former deputy
07:30 - 07:37
that's disloyalty don't ask me to share
07:34 - 07:40
a meal with disloyal people you are
07:37 - 07:40
asking me to commit
07:40 - 07:48
suicide my son very liberal in his
07:44 - 07:50
approach ah don't no Dad wait let's give
07:48 - 07:52
them chance what what that's when I
07:50 - 07:55
tweeted those things
07:52 - 07:59
of er Zuma those
07:55 - 08:02
old videos of Zuma H when we got
07:59 - 08:04
expelled from the ANC Zuma and the top
08:04 - 08:10
laughing W I said boys then if they can
08:10 - 08:14
you they will have you for breakfast and
08:14 - 08:21
it you get an opportunity to get to them
08:17 - 08:25
you you you don't use it these people
08:21 - 08:28
who sat with Floyd and knew Floyd was
08:25 - 08:30
going they were at the center of that
08:30 - 08:34
downfall had they caught me they would
08:33 - 08:38
have finished me
08:34 - 08:41
off that's how politics work if they
08:38 - 08:44
catch you they'll finish you you catch
08:41 - 08:48
them you play with an
08:44 - 08:51
opportunity then you'll have yourself to
08:48 - 08:53
blame that's a problem because of this
08:51 - 08:55
kind of business we are dealing with
08:53 - 08:58
those are politics for
08:55 - 08:59
you I said ratanang ask yourself a
08:59 - 09:05
if they had found me at my weakest what
09:02 - 09:05
would have happened to
09:06 - 09:12
me I know this because I'm from
09:09 - 09:13
it I'm from that I know all of this that
09:13 - 09:20
prevailing where I get
09:16 - 09:23
expelled the people I grew up with the
09:20 - 09:25
people that I shared a meal with the
09:23 - 09:28
people that I not I didn't have to think
09:25 - 09:31
twice about them when I called them to
09:28 - 09:35
come over so that we can form a
09:31 - 09:38
political party they didn't
09:35 - 09:40
come I slept with 10 friends before I
09:38 - 09:44
was expelled I woke up
09:40 - 09:45
alone because they were never my friends
09:44 - 09:49
I'm not going you are not going to ask
09:45 - 09:51
me to travel that path again I'm not
09:49 - 09:54
going to do it
09:51 - 09:56
never I'm not going to do
09:56 - 10:04
anyone I know what disloyalty
10:00 - 10:07
means and I can see one when it appears
10:04 - 10:11
and I can touch it they would have done
10:07 - 10:15
that to me when I was young not
10:11 - 10:16
now the only people I feel bad about is
10:16 - 10:21
parents because most of them come from
10:18 - 10:24
very beautiful mothers who love and
10:21 - 10:26
support the eff and every time we deal
10:24 - 10:29
with them like that at the back of our
10:26 - 10:31
mind is is you know that man
10:31 - 10:37
grandmother that father who who took us
10:37 - 10:44
children how will they feel about us
10:41 - 10:46
now but how will my grandmother feel if
10:44 - 10:49
they were how did she feel when they did
10:49 - 10:57
me was there anyone there to consider
10:54 - 11:00
feelings as this boys because they are
10:57 - 11:05
no girls anyway as these boys
11:00 - 11:06
misbehave I always think that I always
11:05 - 11:09
think about their
11:06 - 11:12
parents because I thought we're loyal so
11:09 - 11:14
much that we have even gone beyond H
11:12 - 11:16
issues of political meetings now we have
11:14 - 11:20
introduced each other to families and
11:16 - 11:24
all of that I'm thinking of their
11:20 - 11:28
parents uh but it's not us I I never
11:24 - 11:30
initiated any fight with anyone I never
11:28 - 11:34
I never said anyone and said let's fight
11:30 - 11:37
so and so they did that they went to sit
11:34 - 11:41
and say we have to drop
11:37 - 11:41
him we have to finish him
11:46 - 11:52
um you know the E is still very young 11
11:52 - 11:57
old to wake up and say we've got loyal
11:55 - 12:00
members and loyal supporters is
12:00 - 12:05
loyalty comes out of
12:03 - 12:08
longevity I will not say those things I
12:05 - 12:10
said in Le's podcast because she was
12:08 - 12:12
very angry and the national chair came
12:10 - 12:15
and said put age restriction on that
12:12 - 12:17
thing because you say wrong
12:15 - 12:19
things it's
12:19 - 12:25
longevity you know it must take long
12:22 - 12:28
long there must not be quick long
12:25 - 12:30
longevity that's where loyalty comes
12:30 - 12:37
eh it's like that's what Revolution is
12:33 - 12:40
comes Revolution comes out of
12:37 - 12:44
longevity Revolution is numbers T
12:40 - 12:46
Numbers some people say Size Doesn't
12:44 - 12:48
Matter size size they say Size Doesn't
12:46 - 12:50
Matter but in the revolution Size
12:51 - 12:57
size longevity is very
12:54 - 13:01
important as we build this organization
12:57 - 13:01
which is still at its formation
13:01 - 13:08
stages you must expect the staff
13:04 - 13:10
Riders you must expect the position
13:08 - 13:12
mongers who fail to achieve certain
13:10 - 13:16
things where they are and think the
13:12 - 13:19
quickest way is through this way as they
13:16 - 13:22
fall on the way you can't say the
13:19 - 13:24
organization has failed because of out
13:24 - 13:30
experiences out of that hardworking
13:27 - 13:33
membership and Leadership loyal and
13:30 - 13:36
discipline members are going to
13:33 - 13:38
emerge and we're very patient H with
13:40 - 13:44
process uh we are ranking ourselves 10
13:44 - 13:49
10 I'm blowing my own horn TG saying
13:47 - 13:52
she's not blowing hey these people will
13:49 - 13:55
not blow a horn for you you will wait
13:52 - 13:58
for a horn it will never come I'm
13:55 - 14:00
blowing my own horn I'm blowing a horn
13:58 - 14:03
you know as bashab when we are in a
14:00 - 14:07
gathering of the bhabis there's always a
14:03 - 14:09
horn that must be blown to officiate
14:07 - 14:13
that this is an official Gathering of
14:09 - 14:16
bab so we did very
14:13 - 14:18
well H that's why I'm prepared if they
14:16 - 14:22
say this team must go back with you I
14:18 - 14:25
I'm prepared to go back with them H I
14:22 - 14:30
have no problem none whatsoever with any
14:25 - 14:33
individual who is here who's a
14:30 - 14:37
non-performer who is a functionalist
14:33 - 14:40
who's a divisive person and I can't say
14:37 - 14:43
that about any of these
14:40 - 14:45
people H what they do after that is
14:43 - 14:48
their own issues because I had a
14:45 - 14:50
discussion with the SG um when Cape Town
14:48 - 14:53
and about Floyd and I said you know
14:50 - 14:55
Floyd must come back this I don't see
14:53 - 14:57
anything if Floyd was not there we
14:55 - 15:01
didn't have to impress him we were
14:57 - 15:04
sitting H our was drinking you know uh
15:01 - 15:06
coffee SG was drinking hard things as
15:04 - 15:09
usual because I don't
15:06 - 15:11
do and we were talking generally and and
15:09 - 15:14
and and that's why I asked him where
15:11 - 15:17
does this one come from because even in
15:14 - 15:20
the most private useless meaningless
15:17 - 15:21
conversation there's never been anything
15:21 - 15:27
that um whatever they do it will be out
15:24 - 15:29
of their own judgment he says I'm not
15:27 - 15:33
his brother uh
15:29 - 15:35
and but I regarded him as my brother if
15:33 - 15:37
he doesn't feel the same about me it's
15:37 - 15:42
problem H so so so I did everything for
15:45 - 15:49
did and and I must be challenged one day
15:49 - 15:55
pushed I will
15:52 - 15:57
talk don't push
15:59 - 16:07
what we are doing here as colleagues is
16:02 - 16:10
to deliver a mandate of 5 years in 3
16:07 - 16:13
years divisive leader should have asked
16:10 - 16:15
for two more years we're supposed to sit
16:13 - 16:17
here for seven years National chair
16:15 - 16:21
because we lost our two
16:17 - 16:24
years we didn't do anything in two
16:21 - 16:26
years but even in that 2 years the eff
16:24 - 16:29
was the most active political
16:26 - 16:32
organization used Innovation create
16:29 - 16:34
methods to make sure that we keep our
16:32 - 16:37
members arrised and
16:34 - 16:42
informed of what is going to
16:37 - 16:46
happen we went as far as defying the
16:42 - 16:50
covid loss and went to fight for H
16:46 - 16:55
George George Floyd under covid it's us
16:50 - 16:58
we went to fight for opening of
16:55 - 17:01
stadiums under very difficult conditions
16:58 - 17:04
because we said no guys it's justifiable
17:01 - 17:06
for us to stay at home we felt very bad
17:04 - 17:10
because we are hard workers when there
17:06 - 17:14
is no work we feel bad we want to
17:10 - 17:18
work racism in bragen fell in Cape Town
17:14 - 17:21
was US during difficult times of covid
17:18 - 17:23
so 2 years we haven't worked yet we
17:21 - 17:25
worked because the loss were not
17:23 - 17:27
allowing us to do anything but we still
17:27 - 17:34
sure we have never kept quiet on any H
17:31 - 17:38
newspaper report
17:34 - 17:41
never we don't respond to
17:38 - 17:43
gossip otherwise we will spend all our
17:41 - 17:45
lives tomorrow they say National chair
17:43 - 17:48
we must release a
17:45 - 17:50
statement we must read a statement when
17:48 - 17:52
you wake up in the morning Le what is
17:50 - 17:55
the gossip saying today yeah yeah right
17:52 - 17:59
something write something no no no no no
17:55 - 18:00
no no no no no when never under Under
17:59 - 18:02
Pressure you can't say you under
18:00 - 18:05
pressure in the same sentence and say
18:02 - 18:06
you didn't say anything HH Under
18:05 - 18:08
Pressure would have meant we must
18:06 - 18:11
respond and we
18:08 - 18:14
responded let me tell you my brother we
18:11 - 18:17
don't respond to
18:14 - 18:19
Twitter we respond to our members it
18:17 - 18:22
doesn't matter what Twitter
18:19 - 18:25
says I've got 4 million plus followers
18:22 - 18:28
on Twitter I tweet and
18:25 - 18:31
disappear all I do is to retweet and I
18:28 - 18:31
retweet even ideas I don't agree
18:36 - 18:40
right but I don't look at comments I
18:40 - 18:46
care I use it to inform the people I use
18:43 - 18:49
it to defend the organization that's it
18:46 - 18:53
how you feel about me on Twitter I
18:49 - 18:56
always knew that world is not
18:53 - 18:59
real because a person speaks rubbish
18:56 - 19:02
about you on Twitter now and then they
18:59 - 19:05
see you at the mall they jump like
19:02 - 19:06
headless chickens ah the way they are so
19:05 - 19:08
stupid they even say I'm the one who
19:06 - 19:11
tweeted about you on Twitter I will stop
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