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China in 2024 the defense spending is

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going up by 7% the most for five years

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you've had 29 consecutive years of

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military expenditure growth the most of

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any country in the world since 2022

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China has increased military drills

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around Taiwan it's escalated since the

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new Taiwanese president was inaugurated

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in May China is not a fan of him since

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then there's been almost daily activity

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involving China's warships drones cyber

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attacks against Taiwan China is getting

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ready to invade Taiwan isn't it there is

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only one China Taiwan is part of China

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and the government of the People's

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Republic of China is the sole legitimate

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government for the totality of China the

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exact status between the two sides of

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the Taiwan state is The Unfinished Civil

00:45 - 00:49

War back in

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1949 so ever since the beginning of the

00:49 - 00:54

1980s China does not want to use a war

00:51 - 00:55

to solve this unification problem don't

00:54 - 00:57

want to use a war but you're surrounding

00:55 - 01:00

it with ships drones cyber attacks and

00:57 - 01:02

making lots of threats each time when

01:00 - 01:05

the separatists in Taiwan want to push

01:02 - 01:08

the edge of the envelope they will come

01:05 - 01:11

across more and more demonstration of

01:08 - 01:12

the commitment of the Chinese Nation to

01:11 - 01:15

eventually achieve peaceful

01:12 - 01:17

reunification or otherwise your defense

01:15 - 01:19

minister said anyone who dares to pursue

01:17 - 01:22

independence for Taiwan will be crushed

01:19 - 01:25

into pieces and face destruction sounds

01:22 - 01:28

like a truly peaceful guy that's a real

01:25 - 01:30

statement because if the separatists if

01:28 - 01:33

the separatists really want to push the

01:30 - 01:35

edge of the envelope with the aid of

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some big country for example which wants

01:35 - 01:41

to use Taiwan as a proxy in its own

01:38 - 01:44

geopolitical rivalry against China then

01:41 - 01:46

wait until you see what will happen

01:44 - 01:49

reunification will be achieved and China

01:46 - 01:51

is the only permanent member of the

01:49 - 01:53

United Nations security Council which

01:51 - 01:56

has not yet achieved a complete

01:53 - 01:57

reunification well I'm why I I'm always

01:56 - 01:59

amused with this phrase reunification

01:57 - 02:01

because if it's one China that clearly

01:59 - 02:02

it's not one China clearly you're

02:01 - 02:04

accepting by definition if you need to

02:02 - 02:07

reunify it they are doing their own

02:04 - 02:09

thing and why this obsession with Taiwan

02:07 - 02:11

you are a country of 3.7 million square

02:09 - 02:14

miles a population 60 times that of

02:11 - 02:16

Taiwan economy 20 times the size of

02:14 - 02:19

Taiwan why are you obsessed with Taiwan

02:16 - 02:22

why not just leave them be in terms of

02:19 - 02:25

Defending China's sovereignty and

02:22 - 02:28

territorial Integrity any inch of land

02:25 - 02:32

is not one inch too much any one single

02:28 - 02:34

person is not one person too many so we

02:32 - 02:35

need to achieve reunification as even

02:34 - 02:38

though they don't want to be part of

02:35 - 02:41

your country 12% of the people of Taiwan

02:38 - 02:43

say they want to reunify with China

02:41 - 02:45

12% you can't get more unpopular than

02:43 - 02:48

that in that medy it's not up to the

02:45 - 02:50

people in Taiwan to decide about the one

02:48 - 02:52

China policy you're very blunt in your

02:50 - 02:54

disregard for people's views freedoms

02:52 - 02:55

dignity you say that you don't care

02:54 - 02:57

about what they think you also said in

02:55 - 03:00

an interview with the French newspaper

02:57 - 03:02

lemond once we get the island back we'll

03:00 - 03:04

have to ask everyone's Origins those who

03:02 - 03:06

have Japanese ancestry who you basicly

03:04 - 03:08

say cons constitute 10% of the

03:06 - 03:11

population will have to pledge loyalty

03:08 - 03:13

to reunification and writing otherwise

03:11 - 03:15

we'll have to help them leave you're

03:13 - 03:17

basically calling for the ethnic

03:15 - 03:20

cleansing of 2.3 million people in

03:17 - 03:22

Taiwan no you remember back in

03:20 - 03:25

1945 when Japan unconditionally

03:22 - 03:28

surrendered a lot of people in Taiwan

03:25 - 03:31

who originally came from Japan they were

03:28 - 03:34

the rulers of uh Taiwan at the time they

03:31 - 03:37

stay behind because of the magnanimity

03:34 - 03:41

of the Chinese Nation now several

03:37 - 03:44

decades later they account for about 10%

03:41 - 03:46

of the local population in Taiwan now if

03:44 - 03:49

you really do your homework you will

03:46 - 03:53

realize that those Die Hard Taiwanese

03:49 - 03:55

separatists include many of these

03:53 - 03:56

japanesee but okay but you would get rid

03:55 - 03:58

of them you would get rid of 2.3 million

03:56 - 04:01

people no after the reunification

03:58 - 04:03

everyone in Taiwan need to make a pledge

04:01 - 04:05

whether they acknowledge there is only

04:03 - 04:06

one China and Taiwan is part of China

04:05 - 04:09

and if they don't make that pledge

04:06 - 04:12

they're else those who pledge wow for

04:09 - 04:13

the one China policy they are local you

04:12 - 04:14

didn't by the way you didn't say

04:13 - 04:16

everyone you said of Japanese descent

04:14 - 04:17

that is literally ethnic you're picking

04:16 - 04:19

people by their ethnic Heritage making

04:17 - 04:20

them do a loyalty test otherwise they

04:19 - 04:23

have to get out of the country they is

04:20 - 04:25

not a loyalty test here for example in

04:23 - 04:27

Britain if you are a British citizen you

04:25 - 04:29

need to support the monarchy you cannot

04:27 - 04:31

say I no I'm standing in Britain I don't

04:29 - 04:33

support the monarchy I don't like King

04:31 - 04:35

Charles no you cannot say no I just said

04:33 - 04:37

it m I literally just said it you cannot

04:35 - 04:39

take any action to oppose the monarchy

04:37 - 04:41

system but I don't have to sign a pledge

04:39 - 04:42

saying I support King Charles well each

04:41 - 04:44

country is different we are talking

04:42 - 04:45

about China China is very different

04:44 - 04:48

let's talk human rights Victor you've

04:45 - 04:50

called Wagers in China's shinjang

04:48 - 04:52

Province your brothers and sisters how

04:50 - 04:54

do you feel about the fact that at least

04:52 - 04:57

half a million some say more of your

04:54 - 04:58

brothers and sisters are being detained

04:57 - 05:01

in camps by the Chinese government

04:58 - 05:03

that's 5% of the adult weer population

05:01 - 05:06

one of the highest imprisonment

05:03 - 05:09

detention rates in the world M the

05:06 - 05:09

weagles are proud ethnic group one of

05:09 - 05:13

the

05:09 - 05:16

56 ethnic nationalities in China The

05:13 - 05:18

Wiggles as far as I'm concerned are my

05:16 - 05:20

true brothers and sisters I know many of

05:18 - 05:24

them I travel to shinjang regularly and

05:20 - 05:27

I talk to many other Wiggles now if

05:24 - 05:30

anyone is serious about accusing China

05:27 - 05:33

of practicing Mass Injustice to the

05:30 - 05:35

weagles give me the evidence I think

05:33 - 05:36

just did human rights what say half a

05:35 - 05:38

million people detained over the years

05:36 - 05:40

in recent years you keep cot Human

05:38 - 05:42

Rights Watch and I tell you do you know

05:40 - 05:44

where they got those numbers from I

05:42 - 05:45

don't know can I tell you I don't know I

05:44 - 05:47

thought you were the expert on she

05:45 - 05:49

shinjang you've spoken to wegers you

05:47 - 05:51

never heard these numbers I do not know

05:49 - 05:53

where did they get the source so their

05:51 - 05:55

source is the shinjang high peoples

05:53 - 05:57

procurator uh which has published its

05:55 - 06:00

own statistics shinjang official body

05:57 - 06:01

which says it's convicted 540,000 826

06:00 - 06:04

people prosecuted in the region since

06:01 - 06:06

2017 the United Nations office for human

06:04 - 06:09

rights looked at satellite footage they

06:06 - 06:11

say 10 to 20% of the population amnesty

06:09 - 06:13

estimates a million people in camps half

06:11 - 06:16

a million is a conservative number many

06:13 - 06:18

if you called that organization please

06:16 - 06:21

be assured that that organization has

06:18 - 06:24

been completely discredited for the

06:21 - 06:25

false information they came with so this

06:24 - 06:27

I love this game we're playing you give

06:25 - 06:28

give me a source I give you a source

06:27 - 06:30

they're discredited they've said

06:28 - 06:31

falsehoods many

06:30 - 06:32

let me ask you a question how many

06:31 - 06:35

people are in detention in shinjang you

06:32 - 06:37

give me a number listen if you look at

06:35 - 06:39

sh you give me a number if you look at I

06:37 - 06:41

do not have the number why not yeah hold

06:39 - 06:42

on you can't say it's not half a million

06:41 - 06:44

and then say you don't have a number I

06:42 - 06:46

have a number I have sources how many

06:44 - 06:49

people do you think a det let me give

06:46 - 06:51

you my reason I go to shinjang a lot I

06:49 - 06:53

travel so your brothers and sisters you

06:51 - 06:55

go there a lot but you can't tell me how

06:53 - 06:57

many people are in detention listen they

06:55 - 07:00

are happier they enjoy their life they

06:57 - 07:01

enjoy their Muslim practices and Trad I

07:00 - 07:04

listen how many people are in detention

07:01 - 07:06

Victor many let me be philosophical no

07:04 - 07:08

don't be philosophical be numerical how

07:06 - 07:10

many people are in detention you said

07:08 - 07:12

not to no to half a million how about

07:10 - 07:14

okay let's quarter of a million let me

07:12 - 07:16

let me let me finish my point nope if

07:14 - 07:19

you answer the question you can't Fuster

07:16 - 07:22

Victor on the show anyone many do

07:19 - 07:24

Independence they will be dwelt with in

07:22 - 07:26

how many of them are in cor how many

07:24 - 07:27

detention the very small minority so you

07:26 - 07:29

don't have a number you say they're all

07:27 - 07:31

happy but you won't let in independent

07:29 - 07:34

invest you won't letting journalists go

07:31 - 07:36

there why not I will be happy to escort

07:34 - 07:38

you to Jing Jang really I can make that

07:36 - 07:40

promise I will speak to the Chinese

07:38 - 07:41

government here's the problem Chinese I

07:40 - 07:44

don't want escort I don't want minders I

07:41 - 07:47

want to go freely will you allow that I

07:44 - 07:48

do not make that decision oh a moment

07:47 - 07:50

ago you were going to make all sorts of

07:48 - 07:52

interruptions suddenly I said let me go

07:50 - 07:54

freely and speak to weas freely can I do

07:52 - 07:57

that with no minders Chinese government

07:54 - 07:59

escort I will be happy to make your case

07:57 - 08:00

oh just now you said you'd organize it

07:59 - 08:03

now we're about make a case you can't

08:00 - 08:04

guarantee here you have Rishi sunak the

08:03 - 08:07

former prime minister was called a

08:04 - 08:10

pint-sized loser by a labor

08:07 - 08:12

politician um no one in China has that

08:10 - 08:14

kind of f Freedom just talk about their

08:12 - 08:16

government to talk about President Xi

08:14 - 08:18

Jinping in that way you can't say

08:16 - 08:19

anything like you wouldn't dare say

08:18 - 08:20

anything like that because you know what

08:19 - 08:21

will happen to you when you go home you

08:20 - 08:24

know what will happen to your family

08:21 - 08:27

that's what China is M if you do

08:24 - 08:29

anything write anything email or chat to

08:27 - 08:32

your friends about taking anything

08:29 - 08:34

action against let's say prime minister

08:32 - 08:37

of Britain president of the United

08:34 - 08:39

States you'll be dwelt with very swiftly

08:37 - 08:41

Victor you're a master of not what I

08:39 - 08:43

said I said Rishi sunet was called a

08:41 - 08:45

pint-sized loser would you call XI Jin

08:43 - 08:48

ping a pint-sized loser Med each country

08:45 - 08:49

has different sensitivities in UK so

08:48 - 08:51

you're admitting you can't criticize the

08:49 - 08:53

Chinese government no no no you can

08:51 - 08:56

criticize the government if you are

08:53 - 08:58

positive in you can criticize the

08:56 - 09:00

government if you're positive is that

08:58 - 09:02

the new philosophy no if you can come up

09:00 - 09:05

with your you got to come up with nice

09:02 - 09:07

insults no what then constructive advice

09:05 - 09:09

constructive advice for example oh i'

09:07 - 09:10

love in dealing with the Aging

09:09 - 09:12

population what should be the government

09:10 - 09:14

do what should this governor should do

09:12 - 09:17

but you can't say the president's lied

09:14 - 09:19

he's a liar nothing you will be dealt

09:17 - 09:20

with very swiftly in China you cannot

09:19 - 09:22

say that that is the most honest thing

09:20 - 09:26

you've said tonight I'll ask again

09:22 - 09:28

tonight is he now president for Life a

09:26 - 09:31

true dictator for the record first of

09:28 - 09:33

all Chinese president XI Jin ping will

09:31 - 09:36

never be president for Life there will

09:33 - 09:39

be a time limit when it will be will be

09:36 - 09:41

handled according to the Chinese legal

09:39 - 09:44

system and Constitution secondly there

09:41 - 09:47

is no dictator in China why because

09:44 - 09:50

dictatorship simply doesn't work

09:47 - 09:53

democracy means modernization and how

09:50 - 09:56

can you explain profound transformation

09:53 - 09:58

of China over the past 45 years in China

09:56 - 10:01

if you have dictatorship or

09:58 - 10:04

authoritarian rule no every leader in

10:01 - 10:06

China will be put into a team and

10:04 - 10:09

teamwork will be much more important

10:06 - 10:12

than individualism maybe previous

10:09 - 10:14

presidents did maybe Jang zamin or huin

10:12 - 10:16

everyone knows xiin ping has centralized

10:14 - 10:18

power Consolidated power got rid of term

10:16 - 10:19

limits you say there's a way to get rid

10:18 - 10:21

of him but there isn't actually a legal

10:19 - 10:23

way to get rid of him he's in power for

10:21 - 10:26

life and he likes being a dictator why

10:23 - 10:27

are we pretending M allow me to remind

10:26 - 10:29

you the Communist Party of China which

10:27 - 10:33

is the ruling party of China has a

10:29 - 10:35

membership of up to 100 million people

10:33 - 10:38

it's well structured every Province

10:35 - 10:41

every state owned Enterprise Etc will

10:38 - 10:42

have sell there's no division or debate

10:41 - 10:46

within the Chinese Communist Party

10:42 - 10:49

listen to me no single person in China

10:46 - 10:52

can dictate to a population of 1.4

10:49 - 10:54

billion people and 100 million

10:52 - 10:55

membership of the Communist Party of

10:54 - 10:57

China okay let's test that that's a

10:55 - 10:58

mission impossible let's test that

10:57 - 11:01

proposition the president won a vote

10:58 - 11:04

last year one a vote I'll put that in

11:01 - 11:05

air quotes do you know the tally of last

11:04 - 11:07

year's presidential vote in favor of Xi

11:05 - 11:09

Jinping by the national people's

11:07 - 11:12

Congress part of that structure you just

11:09 - 11:14

advertised to us what was the vote can

11:12 - 11:19

you tell our audience here I think it's

11:14 - 11:22

up up to about 100% that doesn't

11:19 - 11:25

2,952 to zero yes that's exactly what I

11:22 - 11:27

said could you not find a few people

11:25 - 11:30

just to make it look a little even one

11:27 - 11:32

or two many it's surprising it's not

11:30 - 11:35

surprising 2952 to

11:32 - 11:38

zero one R the Chinese system everyone

11:35 - 11:40

supports the Chinese president that's

11:38 - 11:42

you just told us 10 seconds ago there's

11:40 - 11:43

this huge system a big party one guy and

11:42 - 11:46

then you're like oh no but everyone

11:43 - 11:49

supports him zero votes against him one

11:46 - 11:53

person out of 3,000 couldn't say XI Jim

11:49 - 11:56

being not my guy one what if he is the

11:53 - 11:58

guy for all the Communist Party of China

11:56 - 12:00

you never know never know if that's the

11:58 - 12:02

case then your entire first answer is

12:00 - 12:03

redundant because it doesn't matter if

12:02 - 12:06

there's 100 million people they all have

12:03 - 12:08

to follow the leader no he does command

12:06 - 12:11

huge respect among the Chinese people as

12:08 - 12:12

well as you say respect I say fear do

12:11 - 12:15

you know how many names were on the

12:12 - 12:16

ballot papers that were given in 2013

12:15 - 12:17

how many names were on the ballot paper

12:16 - 12:19

when they went to chose the president

12:17 - 12:22

can you tell our audience I think there

12:19 - 12:23

was only one candidate yeah there were

12:22 - 12:26

no no no other

12:23 - 12:28

names that's a real that's a real secure

12:26 - 12:30

leader a guy who knows he has the

12:28 - 12:31

confidence of his people you get to vote

12:30 - 12:33

but only for me and none of you can

12:31 - 12:35

actually vote against me many we do not

12:33 - 12:39

want to end up in a situation with six

12:35 - 12:42

prime ministers in 8 years yeah so you

12:39 - 12:44

prefer a dictatorship no we prefer a

12:42 - 12:46

system that works for the benefit of the

12:44 - 12:48

Chinese I have not said a word about

12:46 - 12:50

what works or not you got great economic

12:48 - 12:52

growth at but you're a

12:50 - 12:55

dictatorship there is no dictatorship

12:52 - 12:56

Med you just admitted that there's no

12:55 - 12:59

name on the ballot paper no votes

12:56 - 13:00

against him and they all just follow him

12:59 - 13:03

that's the dictatorship when the king

13:00 - 13:05

succeeds the queen how many candidates

13:03 - 13:07

are there on the ballot paper how many

13:05 - 13:09

how many does that make Britain not a

13:07 - 13:10

democracy well you're asking the wrong

13:09 - 13:12

guy I'm a republican so I think we

13:10 - 13:14

should be a full democracy and get rid

13:12 - 13:15

of the monchy and I can say that here

13:14 - 13:17

you can't say that in China you cannot

13:15 - 13:18

take any action against that yes I can

13:17 - 13:20

actually I can go out on the street I

13:18 - 13:21

can hold up a plard and say let's get

13:20 - 13:23

rid of King Charles I can create a whole

13:21 - 13:25

protest outside Buckingham Palace you

13:23 - 13:27

can't do that in China you can't even

13:25 - 13:29

put one other person's name on a ballot

13:27 - 13:32

paper that's how insecure Your Leader is

13:29 - 13:34

I'm a lawyer in my capacity as a lawyer

13:32 - 13:36

I can give you a long list of things

13:34 - 13:38

that you cannot do regarding the

13:36 - 13:39

monarchy here in I'm not debating that

13:38 - 13:41

I'm saying that we have an elected

13:39 - 13:45

government we get to choose we get to

13:41 - 13:47

swap six Prime Ministers God help us but

13:45 - 13:50

we get to pick everyone in this room

13:47 - 13:52

who's a citizen gets to pick listen you

13:50 - 13:53

end up with your mini budget which

13:52 - 13:56

bankrupt the whole that's an honest

13:53 - 13:57

answer Victor but Victor I admire that

13:56 - 14:00

because that's an honest answer your

13:57 - 14:02

answer is it's a dictatorship that works

14:00 - 14:04

at least say that no no no you can't you

14:02 - 14:06

keep dodging one minute you say it's not

14:04 - 14:08

a dictatorship then I show you it is you

14:06 - 14:11

say but it's working we've got growth my

14:08 - 14:13

pick one my if that is your point I will

14:11 - 14:15

seriously urge you to do more homework

14:13 - 14:16

about how the Chinese system works okay

14:15 - 14:18

let's talk about the Chinese system

14:16 - 14:19

because I did a little bit of homework a

14:18 - 14:22

little bit of homework it's it's it's

14:19 - 14:23

did you know that Xi Jinping put his

14:22 - 14:26

name in the

14:23 - 14:28

Constitution that's weird well the

14:26 - 14:29

leader of the country put his own name

14:28 - 14:31

in the Constitution while he's president

14:29 - 14:33

no one's done that since Ma none of the

14:31 - 14:35

other Chinese presidents not huin taau

14:33 - 14:37

not your old boss Deng xia ping none of

14:35 - 14:40

them did it did they or am I wrong it's

14:37 - 14:43

wrong uh the Chinese Constitution has

14:40 - 14:45

been most frequently amended compared

14:43 - 14:46

with any other country am I wrong about

14:45 - 14:49

what I just said with my littleit of

14:46 - 14:51

name was put into the Constitution I D's

14:49 - 14:54

name was put into the while he was

14:51 - 14:55

president and J was put into the con not

14:54 - 14:57

while they were sitting presidents and

14:55 - 14:58

you know that tell our crowd here not

14:57 - 14:59

while they were president they didn't do

14:58 - 15:02

it themselves according to my

14:59 - 15:04

recollection each of were put into the

15:02 - 15:07

cons while they were while the leaders

15:04 - 15:08

were still alive okay so I'm right not

15:07 - 15:11

while they were president I love the

15:08 - 15:12

little slip even Donald Trump one of the

15:11 - 15:15

great narcissists of our time has not

15:12 - 15:17

proposed yet putting his name into the

15:15 - 15:19

US Constitution if you are the president

15:17 - 15:21

of China you're elected without any

15:19 - 15:23

opponents no names on the ballot paper

15:21 - 15:26

zero votes against you you put your name

15:23 - 15:28

in the Constitution six-year-olds are

15:26 - 15:29

taught about Xi Jinping thought in

15:28 - 15:31

Primary School that is not just a

15:29 - 15:33

dictatorship that is a cult of

15:31 - 15:35

personality I don't think China believes

15:33 - 15:37

in personal uh so why are six-year-olds

15:35 - 15:39

learning about Xi Jinping thought I'm

15:37 - 15:41

pretty sure no six-year-olds learned

15:39 - 15:43

about Liz truss's mini budget the

15:41 - 15:46

Chinese system is such that once you

15:43 - 15:48

Orient the country in One Direction

15:46 - 15:50

everyone follows the suit do they follow

15:48 - 15:52

or they ordered to follow they don't

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follow out a choice no it's like a

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vehicle with four wheels here you have

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four wheels aligned in different

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directions opposite directions in China

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the four wheels of a car all lined up in

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One Direction They Don't going forward

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they don't Victor let me give you an

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example former Chinese way former

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foreign minister chin gang was removed

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from his post and has not been seen in

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public since June 2023 a few months

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later China's defense minister General

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Lee Shang Fu disappeared from public

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view for months has now been expelled

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from the party accused of corruption

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that's at least two ministers that

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disappeared just in the last year this

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means China is really merciless in

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dealing with Corruption of of all kinds

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even among the high foreign minister and

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defense Min imagine Anthony blinkin and

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Lloyd Austin just disappeared tomorrow

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we don't know where they are we've never

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seen them again that's not normal Victor

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listen corruption is rampant how do we

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know they're corrupt they just

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disappeared where's the

16:44 - 16:50

trial Tri finish my point Corruption of

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all kinds in China need to be dwelt with

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so where's the trial mercilessness so

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where's the trial where's the trial of

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the former for we don't even know where

16:54 - 16:59

he is M those things you don't know

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doesn't mean doesn't have where is the

16:59 - 17:03

trial for this man you're just accusing

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of corruption chingan was my good friend

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for more than 20 years where is he then

17:06 - 17:10

he is involved in corruption where is he

17:08 - 17:13

and he has dwelt with very swiftly where

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is he Victor regardless of he's your

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good friend you don't know where he is

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regardless of where is the former

17:16 - 17:19

foreign minister of China this is not a

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hard question we're not asking where

17:19 - 17:22

Ran's brother in the middle of shinjang

17:21 - 17:24

is that you can dodge where is the

17:22 - 17:26

former foreign minister of China who

17:24 - 17:27

disappeared and by the way he wasn't

17:26 - 17:29

accused of corruption the spokesman came

17:27 - 17:30

out and said he has health reasons then

17:29 - 17:32

corruption came later by the way where

17:30 - 17:34

did he go your friend that means there

17:32 - 17:36

is a process and the process the process

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starts with one lie that he's ill and

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then the next lie is he's corrupt he may

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be ill you never know I mean he's

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probably ill after he's been in a

17:41 - 17:46

Chinese prison he may be ill now you

17:43 - 17:48

never know but at least Kong lost his

17:46 - 17:50

job because of his corruption last

17:48 - 17:53

question the point where is he he's

17:50 - 17:56

somewhere in China you will never see

17:53 - 17:57

him he is among the 1.4 billion people

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no it's not just him there's many other

17:57 - 18:00

people who have disappeared the previous

17:59 - 18:02

defense minister disappeared the

18:00 - 18:03

ministry of industry and Technology

18:02 - 18:05

disappeared the former Interpol

18:03 - 18:06

president disappeared in China you just

18:05 - 18:08

disappear if they don't like you that's

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the rule of law in China I'm so happy

18:08 - 18:12

they disappear because if they keep

18:10 - 18:14

doing their job they will bring greater

18:12 - 18:15

disaster be careful what you wish for

18:14 - 18:16

because everyone's watching this show

18:15 - 18:17

and if you get something wrong tonight

18:16 - 18:20

maybe you

18:17 - 18:21

disappear if I disappear I hope you will

18:20 - 18:23

bail me

18:21 - 18:26

out I'd have to find you first and China

18:23 - 18:29

is apparently a big country my question

18:26 - 18:31

is as a dissident from Hong Kong knowing

18:29 - 18:34

that I cannot express freely in Hong

18:31 - 18:36

Kong or in the UK without risking other

18:34 - 18:38

people in trouble I also know that you

18:36 - 18:40

just now made claims about there's free

18:38 - 18:42

speech in China and it's possible to

18:40 - 18:44

criticize the Chinese government just

18:42 - 18:46

now again can you please demonstrate

18:44 - 18:48

that free speech and tell us what are XI

18:46 - 18:50

jinping's two worst mistakes in the past

18:48 - 18:51

five years great question if you can

18:50 - 18:53

demonstrate to us that it's okay to

18:51 - 18:55

criticize Xi Jinping the Chinese

18:53 - 18:57

government and China or even just say sh

18:55 - 18:59

kind of resembles winning the Poo would

18:57 - 19:01

be good enough for me thank you Victor

18:59 - 19:04

do you want to take that question well

19:01 - 19:07

thank you I would say uh China need to

19:04 - 19:11

make more prompt uh take more prompt

19:07 - 19:12

actions in dealing with the dramatic uh

19:11 - 19:15

aging population in China and the

19:12 - 19:16

dramatic uh demographic decline do you

19:15 - 19:19

think XI Jin Ping's to blame for not

19:16 - 19:21

being fast enough on Aging no I think uh

19:19 - 19:24

the whole Chinese government including

19:21 - 19:26

the Central Committee State council

19:24 - 19:29

local government need to take actions

19:26 - 19:32

quickly to reverse that dramatic

19:29 - 19:33

uh aging population problem and

19:32 - 19:35

demographic we're not going to get a

19:33 - 19:36

criticism out of VI let's go back to the

19:35 - 19:40

audience I would like to ask you a

19:36 - 19:44

question on Tibet Tibet after 74 years

19:40 - 19:48

of Chinese rule is still under lockdown

19:44 - 19:50

no journalists no individual tourists

19:48 - 19:54

even Tibetans are not allowed to see

19:50 - 19:57

their families what is China afraid of

19:54 - 20:00

to keep keep Tibet in such a tight

19:57 - 20:03

control and Tibet is such a inhuman

20:00 - 20:06

existence in our own country sir ever

20:03 - 20:09

since the UN Dynasty if not even earlier

20:06 - 20:11

Tibet has been part of China through

20:09 - 20:14

different dynasties different historical

20:11 - 20:18

periods I can assure you during your

20:14 - 20:21

lifetime and mine Tibet will always be

20:18 - 20:22

part of China why are you so insistent

20:21 - 20:24

on ruling places that don't want to be

20:22 - 20:26

ruled by China no Tibet we've been

20:24 - 20:28

through Tibet Taiwan they're not happy

20:26 - 20:30

in shinjang

20:28 - 20:32

Tibet being part of China doesn't depend

20:30 - 20:35

on whether you like it or not it's a

20:32 - 20:37

mega trend of our time a mega Trend and

20:35 - 20:41

you need to accept that before you will

20:37 - 20:43

feel free to go back to China visit

20:41 - 20:46

Tibet you sound like you're threatening

20:43 - 20:48

the man no I'm not you said you have to

20:46 - 20:50

accept that before you can go back he's

20:48 - 20:52

from that place you live in peace in

20:50 - 20:54

Britain that's good but he's a refugee

20:52 - 20:56

but if you want to go back to Tibet

20:54 - 20:58

acknowledge Tibet is part of China

20:56 - 21:01

period And what if he doesn't he can't

20:58 - 21:04

go back to his home you cannot go

21:01 - 21:07

back because China doesn't want to see

21:04 - 21:10

anyone advocating for the independence

21:07 - 21:13

of Tibet why can't CH no way there will

21:10 - 21:16

that will never happen Victor why can't

21:13 - 21:19

China rest on its own merits why the

21:16 - 21:21

bullying and the threats we're going to

21:19 - 21:23

break you to pieces Taiwan you can't go

21:21 - 21:26

back until you sign this document or

21:23 - 21:28

that declar why the insecurity second

21:26 - 21:31

biggest economy in the world major power

21:28 - 21:33

you sound so insecure China security

21:31 - 21:36

rests on the principle that there is

21:33 - 21:38

only one China and Taiwan is part of

21:36 - 21:41

China Tibet is part of China and Shing

21:38 - 21:42

Jang is part of China period And even if

21:41 - 21:43

the people there don't want to be part

21:42 - 21:45

of it you don't give a damn the majority

21:43 - 21:49

of the people live happily as chines did

21:45 - 21:50

you do a vote I will go with you we're

21:49 - 21:52

going to go to Tibet and we're going to

21:50 - 21:54

talk to all the Tibet I can go Tob but

21:52 - 21:55

the guy who's from there can't go there

21:54 - 21:57

you sound ludicrous when you say this

21:55 - 22:00

stuff I'm sorry to say let us go back to

21:57 - 22:04

audience from many in the U

22:00 - 22:07

diaspora we have not been allowed

22:04 - 22:10

contact with our families at home Vis in

22:07 - 22:14

the ug autonomous region since

22:10 - 22:19

2017 when Chinese government started

22:14 - 22:21

detaining more than 3 million plus ERS

22:19 - 22:25

into their Hightech surveillance

22:21 - 22:28

concentration camps my question to you

22:25 - 22:30

sir what's the Chinese government trying

22:28 - 22:35

to hide from

22:30 - 22:38

us second okay why can't we why can't we

22:35 - 22:41

not talk freely with our families

22:38 - 22:43

okay another yet another weager so many

22:41 - 22:45

Wagers the same story the same questions

22:43 - 22:48

I'm always very happy to see Wherever I

22:45 - 22:50

Go a wigle person because I do consider

22:48 - 22:52

The Wiggles as my brothers and sisters

22:50 - 22:53

on one condition part me starting to

22:52 - 22:56

feel sorry for your actual brothers and

22:53 - 22:58

sisters I'll be hon on one on one on one

22:56 - 23:00

condition though Wiggles need to

22:58 - 23:03

acknowledge that Shin Jang is part of

23:00 - 23:05

China that's a big precondition if you

23:03 - 23:08

do not accept that precondition you are

23:05 - 23:09

not my brother or sister hold on say he

23:08 - 23:11

that's fine you don't have to be

23:09 - 23:13

brothers and sisters but can he not talk

23:11 - 23:16

to his family it depends on where your

23:13 - 23:19

family is there are indeed wigle

23:16 - 23:22

separatists who want to promote

23:19 - 23:24

separatism of wigle turn about the

23:22 - 23:27

people who are not separ just disappear

23:24 - 23:30

turn Shin Jang into East turkistan this

23:27 - 23:33

will never happen listen to this call

23:30 - 23:34

your friends to stick to the one China

23:33 - 23:37

policy he just wants to talk on the

23:34 - 23:39

phone to a family member years old s

23:37 - 23:42

years I didn't speak to my mother I want

23:39 - 23:44

to speak to my mother I am British I

23:42 - 23:47

want to speak to my mother you

23:44 - 23:51

understand literally support One China

23:47 - 23:53

policy support being part of China

23:51 - 23:55

Victor period do you have no heart to

23:53 - 23:57

see this man who can't speak to his 82y

23:55 - 24:00

old mother a separ I wish your mother is

23:57 - 24:01

here in this all talking to you and why

24:00 - 24:05

you let her go so then she maybe she

24:01 - 24:08

could but then on one condition in China

24:05 - 24:10

Zero Tolerance of any separatist

24:08 - 24:12

movement an 82y old woman is a threat to

24:10 - 24:14

China what does that say about China I

24:12 - 24:17

hope she's not a separatist but if she's

24:14 - 24:20

a separatist she will be dwelt with by

24:17 - 24:22

law period Victor before we finish I

24:20 - 24:24

have one question for you we're in the

24:22 - 24:27

UK we're in Conway all historic Free

24:24 - 24:29

Speech Society could we do a show like

24:27 - 24:31

this could I interview you like this

24:29 - 24:33

could rahan come be on a panel like this

24:31 - 24:35

in Beijing in say the Beijing

24:33 - 24:36

International Convention Center can we

24:35 - 24:38

do a show like this audience members

24:36 - 24:41

freely ask questions you take questions

24:38 - 24:43

from everyone no one's vetted no one's

24:41 - 24:45

threatened could we do this in Beijing

24:43 - 24:48

medy if you ask me to line up all the

24:45 - 24:50

support you will do that really I can

24:48 - 24:51

assure you that a show where every

24:50 - 24:53

audience member gets to speak freely No

24:51 - 24:54

One turns up at their house afterwards

24:53 - 24:57

for many European countries you do not

24:54 - 24:58

need a visa to go to China pick up your

24:57 - 25:01

luggage Buy

24:58 - 25:02

I'm not asking foreigners Victor I'm not

25:01 - 25:04

asking foreigners to come I'm saying

25:02 - 25:06

could a Chinese audience turn up and ask

25:04 - 25:08

whatever they want criticize Xi Jinping

25:06 - 25:10

criticize the government ask you

25:08 - 25:13

questions talk about Wagers could you do

25:10 - 25:14

it in Beijing m in China don't criticize

25:13 - 25:17

our president so we couldn't do this

25:14 - 25:19

unless you have glad very positive

25:17 - 25:22

constructive proposal to

25:19 - 25:25

make criticism from the horse's mouth

25:22 - 25:27

don't criticize unless it's is not the

25:25 - 25:29

only goal criticism with constructive

25:27 - 25:32

purposes a goal will be a better free

25:29 - 25:33

speech free speech is a goal we cherish

25:32 - 25:35

on this show I'm glad to have offered

25:33 - 25:37

you a platform for free speech I wish

25:35 - 25:39

you could offer me one back Victor gal

25:37 - 25:41

thank you for your time thank you to the

25:39 - 25:43

audience in Conway Hall and thank you to

25:41 - 25:45

everyone at home for watching this

25:43 - 25:50

episode of head

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China's Military Expansion and Foreign Policy

China's defense spending is on the rise, increasing by 7% in 2024, marking the highest growth rate in five years. With 29 consecutive years of military expenditure growth, China has become the country with the most significant military expansion globally. Since 2022, China has intensified military drills around Taiwan, especially following the inauguration of the new Taiwanese president in May. The escalating tensions have seen frequent activity involving Chinese warships, drones, and cyber attacks against Taiwan, sparking concerns about a potential invasion.

As the one-China policy remains a cornerstone of China's foreign policy, Taiwan is viewed as an integral part of China, with the government in Beijing considering itself the sole legitimate authority over the region. Despite the unresolved status between Taiwan and mainland China dating back to the unfinished civil war of 1949, China has shown a commitment to achieving peaceful reunification without resorting to military force.

However, the aggressive military maneuvers and rhetoric directed towards Taiwan raise questions about China's real intentions. The veiled threats and coercive methods employed by the Chinese government, including cyber attacks and naval presence, highlight the delicate balance between reunification efforts and respecting the self-determination of the Taiwanese people.

Amidst these geopolitical tensions, China's human rights record has come under scrutiny, particularly in regions like Xinjiang and Tibet. Reports of mass detentions, surveillance, and restrictions on freedom of expression have drawn international condemnation. China's approach to dissent and opposition within its borders, including the disappearance of government officials accused of corruption, underscores the authoritarian tendencies of the regime.

The consolidation of power under President Xi Jinping, exemplified by his inclusion in the Chinese Constitution and the lack of opposition in political appointments, raises concerns about the state of democracy and individual freedoms in China. The cult of personality surrounding Xi Jinping, coupled with strict censorship and control over dissenting voices, paints a picture of a regime that values stability and control above all else.

As China asserts its influence on the global stage, the world watches closely to see how the country navigates its domestic challenges while projecting power abroad. The delicate dance between military assertiveness, territorial claims, and human rights abuses forms a complex tapestry that defines China's role in the international community. Balancing the pursuit of reunification with Taiwan and preserving domestic stability without compromising individual freedoms will be key challenges for China in the coming years.

In a world where power dynamics are constantly shifting, China's approach to governance, foreign policy, and human rights will continue to shape its place in the global order. As the country grapples with internal dissent and external pressures, finding a delicate balance between strength and restraint will be crucial for China's future trajectory on the world stage.


The ongoing tensions between China and Taiwan reveal the intricacies of power dynamics and territorial disputes on the global stage. China's military expansion, foreign policy decisions, and human rights record all contribute to shaping its image in the international community. As the world watches China's next moves, the delicate balance between strength and diplomacy will define the country's role in a rapidly evolving world.